What does woke mean to you?
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gazzatriumph
Legendary Knight
More reasons not to touch anything to do with the BBC
Don the Don
Legendary Knight
Capt. Drunkey
King Of The Schnitzelwiesels
I recently defined the current situation here in Germany with a new word: „Gutmenschenfaschismus“ (Woke-Fascism).
BAD LUCK DUCK
Forum Duck
@Capt. Drunkey
Personally I think your a good man..All joking aside..
You got a good idea about who I am...
I want to say something and I don't mind who reads it and everyone is entitled to there opinion...
It's not about hating anyone for anything whether it's all the crap I hear all the time..
Racist bigot misogynist homophobic blah blah blah...
@Capt. Drunkey not everyone on the so called right wing is what you think...
They ain't out to exterminate anyone and certainly ain't got intentions on a pure Aryan race ...
Sure you got knuckle dragging neanderthal idiots that try to attach themselves to what is called and labelled right wing...
It's all bollox..
It's basically about good family values and holding on to traditional and cultural aspects of who everyone is regardless of nationality you should remember who you are and all those that paved the way so you can be who you are today..
Without men and women and I stress the point men and women that have fought hard in both civil and British Armed Forces...We could not be who we are..
@Capt. Drunkey
I'm gonna make it a mission this year probably may when I got my annual two weeks leave to come and meet you...
I think your gonna have everything you think you know about the so called right wing challenged beyond most people's concept..
Your gonna meet The Duck
I don't think Capt D has any misconceptions of yourself Duck, or the so called far right.@Capt. Drunkey
Personally I think your a good man..All joking aside..
You got a good idea about who I am...
I want to say something and I don't mind who reads it and everyone is entitled to there opinion...
It's not about hating anyone for anything whether it's all the crap I hear all the time..
Racist bigot misogynist homophobic blah blah blah...
@Capt. Drunkey not everyone on the so called right wing is what you think...
They ain't out to exterminate anyone and certainly ain't got intentions on a pure Aryan race ...
Sure you got knuckle dragging neanderthal idiots that try to attach themselves to what is called and labelled right wing...
It's all bollox..
It's basically about good family values and holding on to traditional and cultural aspects of who everyone is regardless of nationality you should remember who you are and all those that paved the way so you can be who you are today..
Without men and women and I stress the point men and women that have fought hard in both civil and British Armed Forces...We could not be who we are..
@Capt. Drunkey
I'm gonna make it a mission this year probably may when I got my annual two weeks leave to come and meet you...
I think your gonna have everything you think you know about the so called right wing challenged beyond most people's concept..
Your gonna meet The Duck
I reckon "Gutmenschenfaschismus" is a word designed to have a pop at the so called good guys on the woke left. I'd say that what he's saying is that THEY are the true fascists.
MartytheMartian
Legendary Knight
I agree @DD67 and I think it's equally appropriate here in the UK where, if you disagree with the way the 'culture' has gone in the world they simply label you as a Racist, Homophobe, Anti-Trans, Misogynist, Far Right, Fascist and that is the end of it. No debate, no listening to your point of view. Somewhat like 'Four Legs Good, Two Legs Bad' and that's it.
One thing I wonder about is the 'Phobia' side of things - Why is it that if, since the day that you were born you had an innate fear of spiders and no-one made you afraid of spiders or taught you to hate spiders then having a 'phobia' about spiders is seen as acceptable but, if, from the day you were born you had a phobia about people of foreign cultures, or who were different and strange to you that's not acceptable. Personally I have a phobia about Drag Queens and, if one got too close to me I might well react violently - No-one trained me in any way to find Drag Queens repulsive it seems to be an innate thing. So why should I be judged guilty of a crime for finding them repulsive if I was simply born that way. Surely it is, in a lot of ways, just like having a fear of clowns.
One thing I wonder about is the 'Phobia' side of things - Why is it that if, since the day that you were born you had an innate fear of spiders and no-one made you afraid of spiders or taught you to hate spiders then having a 'phobia' about spiders is seen as acceptable but, if, from the day you were born you had a phobia about people of foreign cultures, or who were different and strange to you that's not acceptable. Personally I have a phobia about Drag Queens and, if one got too close to me I might well react violently - No-one trained me in any way to find Drag Queens repulsive it seems to be an innate thing. So why should I be judged guilty of a crime for finding them repulsive if I was simply born that way. Surely it is, in a lot of ways, just like having a fear of clowns.
gazzatriumph
Legendary Knight
These woke fuckers don't care about our feelings, now if two blokes are about to kiss each other I can't look it turns my stomach, its not a taught reaction just a natural one for a heterosexual male but the woke lot would condem my reaction.
I was working at Leconfield army camp a few years ago, and in the TV room Eastenders was on. The room was full of Fijians and two blokes on TV were about to kiss and everyone turned away from the TV grimacing, it was quite funny to see. Gays don't bother me one bit I've known a few and they have been a good laugh but the kissing in public or on TV no.
Scrappy
Legendary Knight
It's all insidious misdirection, those who make the accusations are usually the culprits of their accusation.
Those who shout racist are usually the most racist.
Those who claim to be tolerant are usually the most intolerant.
Those who claim to be inclusive are the most divisive.
Those who claim to be 'of peace' are usually the most violent and destructive.
Those who shout conspiracy theory are the ones hiding the truth.
Those who claim to act for your protection and safety, are making you less safe and less free.
etc, etc...
Those who shout racist are usually the most racist.
Those who claim to be tolerant are usually the most intolerant.
Those who claim to be inclusive are the most divisive.
Those who claim to be 'of peace' are usually the most violent and destructive.
Those who shout conspiracy theory are the ones hiding the truth.
Those who claim to act for your protection and safety, are making you less safe and less free.
etc, etc...
Seeing two guys kiss on telly or in person doesn't bother me. But I understand that it does bother plenty of other folk.
The fact that they'd be hauled over the coals if they publicly said anything negative about that situation, is totally wrong.
Don the Don
Legendary Knight
It will never be natural in my eyes and therapy is what they need, as for watching eastenders "well" say no more what would you expect
Controversial statement coming up!......
But hear me out & see if it changes your opinion, even a little bit?
I, like yourself am a heterosexual. I have plenty of male friends but I don't find any of them physically attractive.
But imagine if I or yourself were wired differently and we did find other blokes attractive. Nobody molested us when we were kids or caused that attraction via some kind of other trauma that could be reversed with therapy. We just reached puberty & discovered that girls didn't give us the horn, but guys did.
That would be impossible to cure with therapy Don. In exactly the same way that if it suddenly became illegal for us to find women physically attractive. It wouldn't stop us doing so, because to us it's perfectly normal.
Gay guys know that kissing in public is frowned upon by the vast majority of heterosexual blokes. But I very much doubt that is why they do it. They do it simply because it's as natural to them as kissing a woman is to you & I.
MartytheMartian
Legendary Knight
The problem with that @DD67 is that I think most of us simply can't put ourselves into that position because it's alien to us. It's like trying to get someone to imagine what it's really like to be a cow. We can make assumptions about what it might be like but we can never truly know what it's like. Is it truly the same feeling that a heterosexual man feels for a woman he is attracted to? I suspect that a heterosexual attraction is far more complex because it includes hopes and dreams of procreating, furthering your gene pool, selecting the best genetic partner to create children with and many other factors that we aren't aware of but are indeed taking place when we are attracted to a breeding partner which, of course, is what sex is supposed to be all about. It's like all those men who try to become women and claim they are women trapped in mens bodies. How can they possibly know what it is really like to be a woman? Sure they can dress up and flounce around, piss in the ladies toilets, pretend they have a menstrual cycle and try to imitate women in all the ways they can imagine but they can't possibly know what it's really like to be a woman and they will only ever be playing dress up.
Not what you whispered in my ear when we shared that cosy hotel room!
Don the Don
Legendary Knight
My world is Black and white I know there are shades of grey you dont spend your life in my career without seeing a few wrong ones "BUT" to me I don't want to know and being told I am to co-exist as "normal" with the oddities makes me more determined not to, sorry but that is how my mind works. Towards the end of my career I was made to do all sorts of pink and fluffy courses including the latest one Unconciouse Bias, insinuating that even thinking anti is wrong, well fook em I am to old to change my views and have no intention of doing so, and what makes it worse is that a Red blooded bloke is frowned upon but counter sinking the shit is to be accepted, "No thanks" I will keep my way of life, this is one reason I don't watch telly and don't give fook for the world around me
Jeeezzus!
I must have been seriously pi$$ed!
If I was a shirt-lifter, I'd like to think that I'd have far better taste in men
