The Conspiracy Theorists Thread

Doc Strange

Doc Strange

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MartytheMartian said:
Looking it up online the claim seems to be that it is actually something like a Casio QV10A and I think they are probably right. Time travel into the past seems to be impossible as the Universe just doesn't allow it. Time only travels forwards although it can travel forwards at different speeds.
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Time doesn't travel forward - the past, present and future all simultaneously co-exist.

Or something like that ;)

DS
 
MartytheMartian

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That's the 'block universe' theory where everything that ever will happen has already happened but I don't buy it and, if the 'Block Universe theory was the correct one then it would absolutely rule out time travel in any shape or form. The block universe theory would also rule out the ability of individuals to speed up their relative time which is a proven phenomenon.
 
MartytheMartian

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It would appear that time is something very peculiar and is related, for a given object, to the speed at which that object is moving. I often wonder how time would move for an individual if he could stop himself moving given that we are on a planet that is moving, in a galaxy that is moving in a universe where everything is moving at massive speed. Would time stop if you could take your momentum truly down to zero. The strange thing as well is the fact that time is on a sliding scale for a person dependant on the gravity they are experiencing and the speed at which they are travelling. This has been proven by experiment with clocks moving faster the further away they are from the Earth's centre so, in theory, if you reached the speed of light time would stop for you relative to the rest of the Universe. That is that, while you would be experience time, relative to you, as travelling as it normally does at a speed of sixty seconds per minute, the rest of the Universe would have stopped from your perspective. Even weirder is the fact that it doesn't matter what direction you are travelling in the effect on your time will be the same.
 
Sarky B’stard

Sarky B’stard

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MartytheMartian said:
It would appear that time is something very peculiar and is related, for a given object, to the speed at which that object is moving. I often wonder how time would move for an individual if he could stop himself moving given that we are on a planet that is moving, in a galaxy that is moving in a universe where everything is moving at massive speed. Would time stop if you could take your momentum truly down to zero. The strange thing as well is the fact that time is on a sliding scale for a person dependant on the gravity they are experiencing and the speed at which they are travelling. This has been proven by experiment with clocks moving faster the further away they are from the Earth's centre so, in theory, if you reached the speed of light time would stop for you relative to the rest of the Universe. That is that, while you would be experience time, relative to you, as travelling as it normally does at a speed of sixty seconds per minute, the rest of the Universe would have stopped from your perspective. Even weirder is the fact that it doesn't matter what direction you are travelling in the effect on your time will be the same.
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Eh?

Speed = time x distance. Bikers understand that but……

Clocks? Are you talking about the effects of gravity on their mechanism? Or are you Einstein reincarnated?

www.esa.int

Clocks, gravity, and the limits of relativity

The International Space Station will host the most precise clocks ever to leave Earth. Accurate to a second in 300 million years the clocks will push the measurement of time to test the limits of the theory of relativity and our understanding of gravity.
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MartytheMartian

MartytheMartian

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Well Speed equals Distance divided by time as in Miles per hour etc. but time, for the person travelling at speed is different than that for someone standing still. It has to be quite phenomenal speeds in order for it to be noticeable though. So, if you could travel fast enough and travelled for what, to you and your watch, was an hour, arriving back at your starting point someone waiting on you would have experience a day, a year etc. depending on how fast you travelled. The faster you travel the slower your personal time passes.

There is even a slight hint of a suspicion amongst scientist that, when people talk about the world slowing down in a crash or a near miss it is actually because, as your brain accelerates to cope your relative time slows and so, for you time is really passing more slowly.

'Relative' is the key word because time seems to be specifically related to the person or thing and the speed at which they are travelling and also the gravity that is influencing them. Time and space seem not to be separate entities but parts of the one whole. That is why we talk about the 'fabric' of space-time. A person or object can basically travel forwards in time and some quantum particles even seem to be able to travel back in time (although this is suspected to be an illusion) but the 'whole' of the fabric of Space-Time is unaffected by the 'relative' time of individual objects.
 
Sarky B’stard

Sarky B’stard

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MartytheMartian said:
Well Speed equals Distance divided by time as in Miles per hour etc. but time, for the person travelling at speed is different than that for someone standing still. It has to be quite phenomenal speeds in order for it to be noticeable though. So, if you could travel fast enough and travelled for what, to you and your watch, was an hour, arriving back at your starting point someone waiting on you would have experience a day, a year etc. depending on how fast you travelled. The faster you travel the slower your personal time passes.

There is even a slight hint of a suspicion amongst scientist that, when people talk about the world slowing down in a crash or a near miss it is actually because, as your brain accelerates to cope your relative time slows and so, for you time is really passing more slowly.

'Relative' is the key word because time seems to be specifically related to the person or thing and the speed at which they are travelling and also the gravity that is influencing them. Time and space seem not to be separate entities but parts of the one whole. That is why we talk about the 'fabric' of space-time. A person or object can basically travel forwards in time and some quantum particles even seem to be able to travel back in time (although this is suspected to be an illusion) but the 'whole' of the fabric of Space-Time is unaffected by the 'relative' time of individual objects.
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Should have kept my trap shut!
 
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