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BBC News - Russian tower block in flames as aircraft crashes
BBC News - Russian tower block in flames as aircraft crashes
Russian tower block in flames after deadly warplane crash
The plane went down in a residential area in the southern Russian town of Yeysk, killing four.
www.bbc.co.uk
Sarky B’stard
Legendary Knight
Russia makes pretty shit jet engines. We know they are serviced by low skilled erks but fundamentally they produce great power then self destruct with wearisome predictability. Having visited the RR works at Fulton and seen the precision with which their gas turbine blades are made then eyeballed Russian jets close up at Farnborough there is no comparison on quality. The designs are clever enough but the execution is distinctly shoddy..... but the design philosophy is they aren't expected to last long in combat and they don't train half as much.Oops!..
BBC News - Russian tower block in flames as aircraft crashes
Russian tower block in flames after deadly warplane crash
The plane went down in a residential area in the southern Russian town of Yeysk, killing four.www.bbc.co.uk
Why do you think Aeroflot switched to Boeing & Airbus as soon as they could? User confidence!
Old Nick
Legendary Knight
I can corroborate that, when I was in Angola some years ago I got on an old Antonov an12 (old Russian crate converted for civil passenger use) sat down, engines started, and the centre light consol fell off the ceiling
We couldn’t get off quick enough
We weren’t allowed on Air Ethiopia either, Russian ground and Technical crew
Foxy
Legendary Knight
Ex-UK pilots lured to help Chinese military, MoD says
Up to 30 former UK military pilots are thought to have gone to train members of China's Army.
www.bbc.co.uk
Don the Don
Legendary Knight
Now I can tell some stories, Like when we deployed and used an old VC10 "yes" we still used them and Tristars a few years back, and it was normal for the overhead console to drop and on one flight nearly half way across the pond the flight engineer came looking out of the window near us, soon after the anouncement that we had to return to Brize as there was a major Hydraulic leak, and on another sortie our advance had to divert to Canada as one of the flight controls had started to delaminate, and on and on with such stories, oh the good old daysI can corroborate that, when I was in Angola some years ago I got on an old Antonov an12 (old Russian crate converted for civil passenger use) sat down, engines started, and the centre light consol fell off the ceiling
We couldn’t get off quick enough
We weren’t allowed on Air Ethiopia either, Russian ground and Technical crew
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Don the Don
Legendary Knight
They have always had problems hanging on to them mate, sometimes it was like rat's leaving a sinking ship, what is it they say, Money talks priciples walk, I would have been more surprised if the Chinese had not tried thisEx-UK pilots lured to help Chinese military, MoD says
Up to 30 former UK military pilots are thought to have gone to train members of China's Army.www.bbc.co.uk
Big Sandy
Legendary Knight
Dad used to listen in on the radio channels to civilian flights. I remember him catching one call saying that the flight was going to have to be grounded because the pilot had spilled his coffee on the controls.
I knew an ex RAF pilot who became a civilian airliner driver. Biggest knobhead I ever met.
I knew an ex RAF pilot who became a civilian airliner driver. Biggest knobhead I ever met.
chas
Legendary Knight
We've not had a forum meetup yet. There's still time
Don the Don
Legendary Knight
In all fairness a good many pilots are okay, it's the fast jet prima Donna's that can be the worst
Sarky B’stard
Legendary Knight
A colleague of mine on a UN tour was killed in a Hip helicopter when the turbine decided to stop playing and they are so heavy they don't autorotate well from low altitude.I can corroborate that, when I was in Angola some years ago I got on an old Antonov an12 (old Russian crate converted for civil passenger use) sat down, engines started, and the centre light consol fell off the ceiling
We couldn’t get off quick enough
We weren’t allowed on Air Ethiopia either, Russian ground and Technical crew
Sarky B’stard
Legendary Knight
I did the Rwanda recce in a VC10 in 1994. We were all set to pile in but things resolved themselves. The biggest excitement was trying to get out. Kigali airport (covered in mortar'splashes') sits atop a small round hill surrounded by jungle. We had a mass bird strike on take off and emergency stop right before we tipped into the jungle. Fortunately no ingestion but bent pitot tubes and dents in leading edges and brakes smoking alarmingly. We had a bit of an argument with the militia who wanted us gone and didn't understand we needed cold brakes for a 2nd attempt to get airborne.
Glad I wasn't pay the fuel bill as we had done a triangle vis Nairobi, Kigali and waited for further instructions in Kampala before returning to BZN.
Sarky B’stard
Legendary Knight
And how
Big Sandy
Legendary Knight
that’s what he was, fast jet….kind of guy who could look down his nose at you even if you were 2 feet taller than he was.
Don the Don
Legendary Knight
Trying new legislation to stop jockeys helping enemy states
www.forces.net
Government seeks law change to prevent UK military pilots training Chinese military
It comes after reports up to 30 former pilots are believed to have trained China's People's Liberation Army.
