The Conspiracy Theorists Thread

Sarky B’stard

Sarky B’stard

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Scrappy said:
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Bill Gates publicly spoke a couple of years ago about the return of investment in pharmaceuticals and vaccines as being over 700%. I regard him as devoid of moral principle while wrapped up in a benevolent philanthropic veneer. He’s another one with ‘interesting friends’ and ideas about winnowing the Global population, replacing medics with AI and
www.nytimes.com

Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past (Published 2019)

Mr. Gates has minimized his ties to Mr. Epstein. But a Times investigation reveals they had a closer relationship than previously known.
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Old Nick

Old Nick

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Sarky B’stard said:
Bill Gates publicly spoke a couple of years ago about the return of investment in pharmaceuticals and vaccines as being over 700%. I regard him as devoid of moral principle while wrapped up in a benevolent philanthropic veneer. He’s another one with ‘interesting friends’ and ideas about winnowing the Global population, replacing medics with AI and
www.nytimes.com

Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past (Published 2019)

Mr. Gates has minimized his ties to Mr. Epstein. But a Times investigation reveals they had a closer relationship than previously known.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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Unfortunately my subscription to the New York Times has lapsed :)

What was he up to with Andrews best chum??
 
Scrappy

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MartytheMartian said:
Ah well you see @Scrappy thanks to the Church people think that Satan and his Demons are the evil enemies of God but they aren't. Satan and all the range of Demons are servants of God whose duty is to punish the sinners and try and correct them if correction is possible.
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I'm more of the opinion that they are the Watchers and may have been in fact the good guys who wanted to educate and assist humans rather than punish, and they themselves were punished by "God" (or the other gods) for helping advance early humans 🤔

However Gates is pure evil, a nasty insidious individual.
 
MartytheMartian

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I agree with you on Gates but not on Satan and his organisation. I believe they are the 'punishers' who collect and deal with corrupt soul. I believe the watchers are another organisation altogether. In Gaelic they are often called 'The People of Peace' (so as not to offend them) but there is an older word 'Fairidhean' (Pronounced Fair-ee-an) which I believe is the origin of the word Fairy. In Gaelic the word actually means Watchers.

I consider it dangerous to think of Satan and his staff as 'teachers' and 'misunderstood angels' as one of their jobs is to test the quality of souls by whispering attractive ideas in their ears and tempting them with sweet words and convincing arguments. To believe that Satan is misunderstood is to believe that he truly is a fallen angel rather than a vital servant of God.
 
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MartytheMartian

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I honestly don't know. The most credible story I have ever read of ET's is told by a former USAF serviceman called Charles James Hall and, if his tale happened to be true then ET's of several races have been quietly resident on Earth for many centuries. Now, if that were true and the US government in particular had full knowledge of it how in hell could they admit it without being torn apart for keeping it quiet for centuries?

The revelation that we aren't alone and that space travel over massive distances is possible would probably empty Earth in a matter of days with people queueing up to get out from under those that rule the Earth and go out into the void looking for the wealth of land and materials that are out there. For all that our governments are tentatively reaching out to space in truth they really don't want to lose the control that they retain solely because this is the only world we have. Imagine a day where gold goes from being a valuable commodity to something that you could scoop up by the tonne and entire planets would be available to anyone who would lay claim to them. All the things that we hold precious and which hold us as thralls on Earth are available in incredible abundance throughout the universe. The only thing that truly appears to be a scarce commodity is life.
 
half ton

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MartytheMartian said:
I honestly don't know. The most credible story I have ever read of ET's is told by a former USAF serviceman called Charles James Hall and, if his tale happened to be true then ET's of several races have been quietly resident on Earth for many centuries. Now, if that were true and the US government in particular had full knowledge of it how in hell could they admit it without being torn apart for keeping it quiet for centuries?

The revelation that we aren't alone and that space travel over massive distances is possible would probably empty Earth in a matter of days with people queueing up to get out from under those that rule the Earth and go out into the void looking for the wealth of land and materials that are out there. For all that our governments are tentatively reaching out to space in truth they really don't want to lose the control that they retain solely because this is the only world we have. Imagine a day where gold goes from being a valuable commodity to something that you could scoop up by the tonne and entire planets would be available to anyone who would lay claim to them. All the things that we hold precious and which hold us as thralls on Earth are available in incredible abundance throughout the universe. The only thing that truly appears to be a scarce commodity is life.
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Do you honestly think President (let's go Brandon) Biden could keep it a secret...🤪
 
Scrappy

Scrappy

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MartytheMartian said:
The most credible story I have ever read of ET's is told by a former USAF serviceman called Charles James Hall and, if his tale happened to be true then ET's of several races have been quietly resident on Earth for many centuries.
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Have you heard of Paul Hellyer? - He is a former Canadian Defence Minister and he said something very similar...

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Former Canadian Defense Minister: Aliens live among us but hate our warring ways | Daily Mail Online

Former Canadian minister Paul Hellyer believes there are extra-terrestrials living among us but they won't share their advanced technology with us because of our warring and polluting ways.
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MartytheMartian

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I have heard of Paul Hellyer @Scrappy but I don't know if I buy his take on things although it would certainly gel with the push to get us all to become 'one worlders' and the World Economic Forum's desire for homogenisation. I have heard others put the theory that Alien's won't reveal themselves to us or allow us 'off world' until we lay down our arms and stop fighting each other. Of course that could also be the point at which an offensive alien race would choose to wipe us out. In the accounts by Charles Hall he claims that the 'tall white's' are fiercely protective of their people, especially their children, and will kill anyone on the spot who they perceive to be a threat so hardly a peaceable people and, although they didn't condescend to tell him much he believes that they wiped out every other living creature on their home planet in order to 'get rid of the competition' for resources so hardly 'eco warriors' and are supposedly fascinated by the fact that humans live with and tolerate the plethora of species that compete with them for resources or which could prove a threat to life and limb. This cold, evolutionarily sensible mentality of Hall's 'Tall White's' is one of the things that sort of rings with credibility to me. That and the fact that he says they have absolutely no interest in Earthlings other than as an amusing theme park and interstellar bus stop.
 
Scrappy

Scrappy

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MartytheMartian said:
I have heard of Paul Hellyer @Scrappy but I don't know if I buy his take on things although it would certainly gel with the push to get us all to become 'one worlders' and the World Economic Forum's desire for homogenisation. I have heard others put the theory that Alien's won't reveal themselves to us or allow us 'off world' until we lay down our arms and stop fighting each other. Of course that could also be the point at which an offensive alien race would choose to wipe us out. In the accounts by Charles Hall he claims that the 'tall white's' are fiercely protective of their people, especially their children, and will kill anyone on the spot who they perceive to be a threat so hardly a peaceable people and, although they didn't condescend to tell him much he believes that they wiped out every other living creature on their home planet in order to 'get rid of the competition' for resources so hardly 'eco warriors' and are supposedly fascinated by the fact that humans live with and tolerate the plethora of species that compete with them for resources or which could prove a threat to life and limb. This cold, evolutionarily sensible mentality of Hall's 'Tall White's' is one of the things that sort of rings with credibility to me. That and the fact that he says they have absolutely no interest in Earthlings other than as an amusing theme park and interstellar bus stop.
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Yeah, I don't buy in to the theory that aliens won't reveal themselves due to our aggressive nature, or because we are harming the planet, or they want to invade and take over the Earth, etc, etc. If aliens had travelled to Earth then the level and power of technology required to do so would mean that they could simply do whatever they wanted and there would be nothing we could do to prevent them. They would surely be able to subdue or totally eradicate the human race without any collateral damage.

The only scenario that could seem plausible to me is that if there are alien visitors then they are simply voyeurs (watchers), either with a no interference policy or that they are the "creator" gods as believed by many ancient cultures, and maybe occasionally advance or refine their creations. 🤔
 
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