What's Boiling Your Pi$$ Today?

DD67

The Peace Keeper
Staff member
There is something about groups.

The lone biker, cyclist, walker - generally fine folk.

A large group of bikers, cyclists or walkers - often prats.

DS
I found that if I was tail end Charlie of a group of 10+.
Altnough the guy at the front might not exceed 60mph. I was invariably doing 90mph+ to keep up.
That seems to be the way it pans out on group rides.
 

DD67

The Peace Keeper
Staff member
The old tabbing in a group. Front does x middle does y and the rear does xysndbbfbebxbd to catch up
When I had practical bikes rather than sporty bikes. I used to volunteer to carry mates stuff to bike rallies.
A bike loaded with 48+ cans of beer, disposable BBQ's, camping gear & grub etc. Gave me the perfect excuse to not get involved in all the macho bullshit.

On one particular trip to Kent we arranged to regroup at South Mimms services on the M25.
I arrived to tales of them doing 140mph & dicing with death.
When I asked how long they'd been there (some were still fueling up) the answer was roughly 5 mins.
Strange that, cos I'd been sat in the inside lane with the trucks at 55mph for approx 60 miles 🤔
 

Sarky B’stard

Legendary Knight
The concertina effect occurs because the average speed isn’t much different but because the delay in communication from from to rear creates far greater amplitude I.e. much slower and much faster. The lead needs to deliberately wind speed on slowly. On a bike they never do and the distance between front wheel spindles is constantly stretching and contracting violently with tail end Charlie on a whiplash. But you knew that…..
 

Big Sandy

Legendary Knight
I haven't ridden with a group in years, and nor do I want to.

We get a lot of groups of different vehicles. Sports cars. Bikes. Trikes. I think the NC500 has a lot to do with it. Coming home the other week we were passed by 6 mclarens. I found that very amusing... I know what state the roads in further up....
 

MartytheMartian

Legendary Knight
I don't like riding in groups in fact I don't even like being on a road when groups or even pairs of bikers happen to be around. A few weeks back I was bumbling along from Inveraray towards home on the Daytona. Not far out of Inveraray I'm behind a couple of cars just plodding along happily at 55-60 when I spied two bikes in my mirrors. The first, a ZX12 I think, came past ovetaking myself and the cars on a lefthand bend, and then the second, a very old VFR750 came roaring past. As I came onto a longer, reasonably straight bit of road where it was actually safe to overtake the red mist descended and I opened her up. After a mile or two going into a bend I happened to glance at my speedo which was reading 125mph and suddenly my brain went "what the feck are you doing trying to catch up to a couple of twats you don't know who want to kid on they have the talent to be in the TT?!" In an instant the red mist cleared and I decided that I don't have the talent or the death wish to act like an arsehole on the road these days. The way visitors to my area ride explains why there is usually at least one crash and often a death in Argyll every time the sun comes out.
 

DD67

The Peace Keeper
Staff member
The first, a ZX12 I think,
I've always thought the ZX12R is a gorgeous looking bike.
Only marginally slower than a Hayabusa. And the fairing doesn't look like an easter egg that was left on a radiator!
Unfortunately, I didn't like the riding position & I could never do one justice.

If I could do one justice it would take a coin flip to decide between these two colour schemes/model years...
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MartytheMartian

Legendary Knight
The one that passed me was in that wine red colour.

Another thing I hate now I come to think of it is bikers behind me that I can't see. I think it might have been the same day and I was heading in the direction of Inveraray behind a car, a few trucks and a car towing a caravan. I was aware of a Mini behind me but, at one point when I glanced back I was sure I saw a bike between me and the Mini. As the mini wasn't that far back in my mirrors, if there was a bike behind me he must have no more than a few feet behind me. I started to think I was seeing things because, even though I was shifting road position for bends I wasn't seeing anything but the Mini behind me and then, after a few miles I glimpsed it again. The bugger sat dead in my blind spot and hardly any distance behind me for miles. If it wasn't for a couple of glimpses I wouldn't have known he was there until I had to brake suddenly and he ran into me. Put simply, when he eventually passed me, it was an R1 and all I thought was 'feckin' twat!'
 
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DD67

The Peace Keeper
Staff member
Ooooooo look!
I spy with my little eye a ZX12R Streetfighter project bike 😃


If I buy that. I'll be blaming yourself for making me think of such a cracking bike again Mr Martian! 🧐

Edit...
Looking at the price of non damaged ZX12R's & the crazy price of used/unmarked fairing panels. I'd probably be better to purchase one of those & sell the bits I'd be removing.
Anyone fancy putting in a pre-order for a mega fast Streetfighter? 🙂

They can look really good minus their fairing & with a far more comfy riding position ...
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GaleForceEight

Legendary Knight
I don't like riding in groups in fact I don't even like being on a road when groups or even pairs of bikers happen to be around. A few weeks back I was bumbling along from Inveraray towards home on the Daytona. Not far out of Inveraray I'm behind a couple of cars just plodding along happily at 55-60 when I spied two bikes in my mirrors. The first, a ZX12 I think, came past ovetaking myself and the cars on a lefthand bend, and then the second, a very old VFR750 came roaring past. As I came onto a longer, reasonably straight bit of road where it was actually safe to overtake the red mist descended and I opened her up. After a mile or two going into a bend I happened to glance at my speedo which was reading 125mph and suddenly my brain went "what the feck are you doing trying to catch up to a couple of twats you don't know who want to kid on they have the talent to be in the TT?!" In an instant the red mist cleared and I decided that I don't have the talent or the death wish to act like an arsehole on the road these days. The way visitors to my area ride explains why there is usually at least one crash and often a death in Argyll every time the sun comes out.
Stay safe buddy.
 

MartytheMartian

Legendary Knight
After writing my entry about the 'red mist' and passing nutjobs I noticed, checking the news online that a rider was killed in Kilmartin that day (yesterday) while riding with a group he apparently lost control of his BMW and was pronounced dead at the scene and elsewhere in Scotland (I think it was Lothian) another rider had gotten himself into intensive care.
 

MartytheMartian

Legendary Knight
I have to admit that the Sprint RS is actually a bit safer on the road because it doesn't have the manners, feel of stability and precision of the Daytona and let's you know that it will happily murder you if you don't respect it. It doesn't invite overconfident riding. It's weird that, with mine anyway, the Daytona feels very refined and smooth where the Sprint feels like a nutcase despite having considerably less power. Side by side they look very similar to each other dimensionally but if you line them up you find that the Sprint has a longer wheelbase and a different overall geometry. The Sprint actually spreads you out over the tank more than the Daytona does despite having bars an inch or two taller.
 

Scrappy

Legendary Knight

MartytheMartian

Legendary Knight
I wonder why, when they want us to all eat vegetables they are using so much land to grow grain simply to turn into alcohol then using an energy intensive process to distill it, generating tremendous amounts of CO2 during the fermentation process then energy use in transporting it and mixing it with petrol. I would love to know the 'carbon footprint' of ethanol in fuel when you take into account the energy used in planting, the weedkillers and fertilisers used in growing it, the fuel used in harvesting, the CO2 generated by fermentation and the energy used in distillation. I am guessing it is probably bigger than feckin' petrol.
 
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