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[Sarky B’stard]

'It's quite a drop': Drivers complain over E10 fuel changes as efficiency 'plummets'

DRIVERS have complained how new E10 fuel changes introduced earlier this month are impacting driver's miles per gallon (mpg) ratios.

www.express.co.uk

If this is true and E10 fuel does reduce MPG by about 5% then that means people buy and burn more fuel, therefore negating any CO2 saving. So what is the fucking point!!

Supposedly this:

E10 petrol explained

Learn about the benefits of E10 petrol and use our vehicle checker to confirm whether your vehicle is compatible with E10.

www.gov.uk

But I am inclined to agree. It is more about burning a renewable and less fossil fuel than any significant reduction in emissions which are only expressed as tonnes of CO2. Ethanol produces more water vapour but clouds don’t count whereas CO2 does

 

[BAD LUCK DUCK]

'It's quite a drop': Drivers complain over E10 fuel changes as efficiency 'plummets'

DRIVERS have complained how new E10 fuel changes introduced earlier this month are impacting driver's miles per gallon (mpg) ratios.

www.express.co.uk

If this is true and E10 fuel does reduce MPG by about 5% then that means people buy and burn more fuel, therefore negating any CO2 saving. So what is the fucking point!!

Your obviously a racist misogynistic nazi that hates kittens for pointing that fact out...

Wanna join my gang

 

[gazzatriumph]

All the dick heads panic buying petrol, idiots

 

[Sarky B’stard]

I pitched with a 22 miles to empty warning on the dash and was bemused by the queues of people topping off. *

It’s the fuel equivalent of riding in groups and the bullwhip effect taking fuel out of ground tanks but nobody’s consumption average changes except marginally for the worse while lugging more weight around.

 

[chas]

I had to ride around a few queues on the way home tonight for stations with fuel. I've about 3 days in the vehicles and some in the shed so I'm hoping todays idiotic panic will die down.
AFAIK it's only Esso and BP that have actual supply chain problems but the panic buy has put pressure on those with deeper tanks.

 

[MartytheMartian]

I have a mate who is a tanker driver and he said that this fuel shortage is a load of bollocks. He is happily rattling around the country delivering fuel as normal but the nutters are emptying the tanks faster than he can get round the stations rather than there being a genuine shortage. Another example of media running their mouths off and creating panic. I see that certain media outlets are now saying that we should 'let in 10,000 European truck drivers' to get cover for the shortfall yet, as I understand it, there is a shortage of drivers and distribution problems across Europe too.

I also know more than half a dozen ex-HGV drivers. Most of them stopped driving because the wages and hours weren't to their liking and they were just fed up. Could it be that BP and Esso just want cheaper drivers and have manufactured a fuel shortage to try and force the government to give them access to cheaper labour? Would raising pay to entice former HGV drivers back solve the problem?

 

[Steve 998cc]

There wasn't any shortage till t*ss*rs started topping there tanks with 5/10ltrs these panick buyers want f**king.

 

[half ton]

Got queues everywhere here, I was fuming going home last night, I have a quarter of a tank which will get me to work for 3 days....then I will have to empty the lawnmower into the car , I dropped the Bonneville off at the dealers last wednesday and it had almost a full tank of petrol....feckin giving it away I am.

 

[Don the Don]

There wasn't any shortage till t*ss*rs started topping there tanks with 5/10ltrs these panick buyers want f**king.

 

[The Departed]

I'll be going straight to the front of any queue on the bike tomorrow

 

[Scrappy]

Going out for a ride later to see my son, and after reading these posts I thought I'd go get some fuel this morning. Got to Tesco around 8:30 am and there was a queue, but the Tesco near me has a motorcycles only pump (that and pay at pump is why I go there), so to the annoyance of those sitting in their cars, I breezed past everyone, straight to the bike only fuel pump and filled up

 

[Scrappy]

I have a mate who is a tanker driver and he said that this fuel shortage is a load of bollocks. He is happily rattling around the country delivering fuel as normal but the nutters are emptying the tanks faster than he can get round the stations rather than there being a genuine shortage. Another example of media running their mouths off and creating panic. I see that certain media outlets are now saying that we should 'let in 10,000 European truck drivers' to get cover for the shortfall yet, as I understand it, there is a shortage of drivers and distribution problems across Europe too.

I also know more than half a dozen ex-HGV drivers. Most of them stopped driving because the wages and hours weren't to their liking and they were just fed up. Could it be that BP and Esso just want cheaper drivers and have manufactured a fuel shortage to try and force the government to give them access to cheaper labour? Would raising pay to entice former HGV drivers back solve the problem?

I heard that the shortage of drivers is not just a UK problem but is Europe wide, and that about 90% of the driver shortage in the UK could be resolved if the pay and conditions were vastly improved, because like you said Marty, a huge number of drivers have packed it in because it has become a crap job.

 

[gazzatriumph]

I went for a short ride yesterday and the queues were ridiculous, and most likely the majority of people queuing yesterday aren't working and when people who need petrol to get to work try to get some they could be stuffed. Luckily I'm only a couple of miles from work.

 

[gazzatriumph]

I've just gone back to HGV driving only part time 3 days a week, my choice, driving the recycling lorries, a bit tiring as in Devon all the recycling is put in small boxes which we have to sort through and put in the right compartment in the truck. But I've nearly doubled my wage from driving a minibus for the same hours I'm away from home. Haven't driven HGV since 2003.

 

[Don the Don]

I remember times when drivers looked down their noses at lorries and HGV drivers and complained about them, "Well" now they know why they are on the roads delivering everyday requirements so joe public can maintain their standards off living, It never fails to amaze me how this country is never prepared for any situation going peet tong and having no plan B it's almost as if we need to re-form the civil defence force to carry out all issues or prepare our forces to drop everything and step in, we seem to have removed all back up support to save money

 

[Old Nick]

Same story down here our local Asda 24 hour pay at pump had 500 yard queues all day yesterday and was closed at 9.30 last night - run out of fuel

Now what’s really pissing me off is the problem was with BP and I think Shell garages, but because of all the tossers panic buying the problem has expanded to all garages

Last night I heard all of Hastings had run out of fuel

Fucking ridiculous

 

[MartytheMartian]

It kind of makes me embarrassed to be a member of the human race. In a few short years an awful lot of society has proven itself to be a bunch of utter pathetic tossers. Was it always like this under the surface or is the human race de-volving?

 

[gazzatriumph]

It kind of makes me embarrassed to be a member of the human race. In a few short years an awful lot of society has proven itself to be a bunch of utter pathetic tossers. Was it always like this under the surface or is the human race de-volving?

Imagine this current crop of British people in the second world war.

 

[gazzatriumph]

They will blame Brexit and not the pillocks panic buying

 

[MartytheMartian]

It seems that, no matter what the overall majority of the country thinks these days all a small group, or a company, need to do is generate a little protest action and the government caves and does exactly what they want. I see the government is now being reported as about to cave and grant visa's for truck drivers from Europe to come in and cover the shortfall. That will piss off the countries in Europe already struggling with driver shortages themselves and it will be interesting to see if anyone will actually take them up on it. I have seen so much online blaming Brexit for the driver shortages and supply shortages and yet, if you look overseas, the self same problems are being reported all over the world so why is it specifically to do with Brexit here? When the Chinese war machine starts rolling we are doomed I tells ye!