Don the Don
Legendary Knight
Good on you for solving the issue, thats far too much to pay for a couple of batteries thieving gits
What's Boiling Your Pi$$ Today?
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That's tomorrow's job Marty.
After trying taped on aluminium foil on a.n.other AAA.
I popped to see some very techie friends earlier. The Panasonic story came out in conversation.
After I'd finished my rant about the total lack of info via the Panasonic live chat person.
My mates wife (least techie of the two) said..."My guess is the person you spoke to that you thought was deliberately withholding the info you needed. Was reading from her script & didn't have a Scooby Doo why a.n other AAA's wouldn't charge in situ"...
She was very possibly correct Marty. But why are the "tech help" staff not being given the full info?
Other than, without that info Panasonic get £12 for 2 x AAA's
Cheers Don.
That kinda dodgy shit really boils my pi$$.
£12 for a couple of AAA's ain't the end of the world mate.
But the fact Panasonic would add such a thing to confuse folk & make them purchase the "genuine" product is out of order. Especially when the product in question is most likely to appeal to older folk who are hard of hearing.
How many folk have spent £100 on their headphones. Then years later had to spend another £12 on new batteries. When £4 on Duracell's & 1p worth of tin foil would have done the job?
MartytheMartian
Legendary Knight
The tech help probably didn't even work for Panasonic as such. So many companies now pay call centre operators to run their help and information lines and they sit on the phone in a generic call centre looking at a website create by the company they are contracted to and so have no direct contact with or genuine experience of the technical issues they are talking to you about. My stepdaughter and her ex-husband worked for one such call centre in Glasgow only it's main business was banking support and on different days they would be working on lines for different banks and building societies. Anything that they couldn't fob off or solve themselves meant putting you through to an actual call centre for the bank in question who could actually do things. I think of these call centres as a first line of defence buffer to stop customers getting through to companies rather than an actual service to help customers.
I took screenshots of my conversation with the unhelpful person I was "live chatting" with.
This was approximately halfway through Marty...
A lot of the the problem seemed to boil down to Heather reading from her script. And not having a f#ckin Scooby Doo about the product she was giving tech support on!
MartytheMartian
Legendary Knight
That person's first language is not English and I am guessing you are also dealing with a language barrier. Probably in the Phillipines or India. It's quite ridiculous at times.
Asda use a call centre in the Phillipines for their home delivery help desk or at least they do here in Scotland. T'other day our delivery hadn't arrived within the time stated and calling the call centre was no help. How on Earth can someone sat on the other side of the world really be on top of where delivery drivers are and what problems they might be experiencing in the West of Scotland!
Asda use a call centre in the Phillipines for their home delivery help desk or at least they do here in Scotland. T'other day our delivery hadn't arrived within the time stated and calling the call centre was no help. How on Earth can someone sat on the other side of the world really be on top of where delivery drivers are and what problems they might be experiencing in the West of Scotland!
Sarky B’stard
Legendary Knight
It’s called Customer Loyalty. And if you don’t use our batteries you vil be shot! It’s no different to Peugeot being designed impossible to service without factory tools.
Sarky B’stard
Legendary Knight
Are you determined to bore the readership into submission with arcane economics? Respectfully (that was hard!) you perhaps confuse Keynes enthusiasm for Government intervention to set balls in motion
with public ownership. The Classical economist would say say the Government should do what only a Government can (Courts, Defence, roads and infrastructure) and leave the rest to private capital. The dividing line is often about ‘what is infrastructure’? The pipe or the contents?
My take is that the privatisation was a ‘good thing’ (NHS specs or Specsavers = no contest) but that the privatisation was ballsed up with horizontal segmentation that doesn’t actually serve anyone apart from a few fat cats. It was politicians wot did it and from both sides of the aisle with different utilities. The problem persists between rail operators and nationalised track ownership….. which seems to cause most of the problems.
The electricity supply business is a prime example of the problem. The price of distribution is pretty uniform but the big variable is the cost of generation. We should have had separated those two halves for real competition……think broadband pretty much all using BT infrastructure but competing on price as ISPs. It hasn’t stopped innovation over mobile networks either….
Anyway, if the ownership construct is wrong it doesn’t excuse either politicians or polluters for sewage in our rivers etc. There is high level incompetence and worse on all sides and inadequate holding to account.
The great Keynesian boosts in public works post WWII and since are beloved of politicians because they get to be generous with our money and then take credit. It’s Gordon Brown at his worst with your cheque book. There is plenty of Classical economic opinion that Keynes appears to get the ball rolling but that is is generally squandered and never sustained because the Government runs out of our money. Conversely, private investors have skin in the game and may be slower out of the blocks but produce better outcomes at less cost.
Still awake? It’s all opinion. Keynes famously said he changed his if the facts changed. Reagomics and Thatcherism would have probably persuaded him but we slide back to Keynesian policies because the are a political fig leaf….. not because they necessarily produce better outcomes. Their hands in your pocket…..
Sarky B’stard
Legendary Knight
Wasn’t that Henry Ford?Just goes to show Milton Friedman was right - There’s no such thing as a free lunch
Sarky B’stard
Legendary Knight
I actually think attribution and origin are lost in the mists of time pre 1930 anyway!
Sarky B’stard
Legendary Knight
Repeating the line rather than coining it….. I think!
Old Nick
Legendary Knight
Yes indeed the phrase was apparently in general use in the 1930’s and Friedman was the first to link it to Economics in 1969Repeating the line rather than coining it….. I think!
chas
Legendary Knight
Maybe but at least I only used two sentences.
I don't disagree with much of your reply in truth.
Sarky B’stard
Legendary Knight
Wimp!Maybe but at least I only used two sentences.
I don't disagree with much of your reply in truth.
Don the Don
Legendary Knight
MartytheMartian
Legendary Knight
That senile old bastard is another Joe Kennedy IRA sympathising anti-British asshole who can well and truly screw off. The USA doesn't have any friends anyway never has only people it likes to use when it feels like it.
Sarky B’stard
Legendary Knight
Well I have got on great with pretty much every US serviceman I have ever had dealings with but they generally feel the same way about their government we do…..
The problem I have is the uncritical approach to the US because we share a language they have bastardised. They are a foreign nation who rightly pursue their own interests (temporarily suspended under the current management with hidden paymasters) and, for the most part, they coincide with ours.
However, there is a domestic audience both Irish and Hispanic where we will get thrown overboard if it suits. The French thing is because the French provided minor assistance to the Revolutionaries because they were still smarting about getting ejected from North America by us in 1757. A bit like submarines….. Did you see Astute pop up Down Under?
www.navalnews.com
Anyway, the wind never blows continuously in the same direction but the prevailing wind is transatlantic…..
The problem I have is the uncritical approach to the US because we share a language they have bastardised. They are a foreign nation who rightly pursue their own interests (temporarily suspended under the current management with hidden paymasters) and, for the most part, they coincide with ours.
However, there is a domestic audience both Irish and Hispanic where we will get thrown overboard if it suits. The French thing is because the French provided minor assistance to the Revolutionaries because they were still smarting about getting ejected from North America by us in 1757. A bit like submarines….. Did you see Astute pop up Down Under?
Royal Navy Nuclear-Powered Submarine Astute Calls in Australia - Naval News
The Royal Navy nuclear-powered submarine (SSN) Astute is conducting a port call to Perth (Western Australia). The visit, a first for an Astute-class submarine, is demonstrating "the strong existing naval partnership between Australia and the United Kingdom" according to the Australian Department...
www.navalnews.com
Anyway, the wind never blows continuously in the same direction but the prevailing wind is transatlantic…..
MartytheMartian
Legendary Knight
Interesting little fact - One of the first people to start bastardising the English Language in the USA was President Theodore Roosevelt. Apparently he was rotten at spelling and rather than try and improve he worked out simplified spellings for American intellects and issued an executive order in regard of them. He was laughed at and apparently the American public felt that the British in particular were ridiculing them over their inability to properly spell English words but gradually his spellings have worked their way into American language. Interestingly those 'odd' spellings we employ in the United Kingdom employ are generally very accurate ways of telling an educated English speaker how words they haven't encountered before should be pronounced although some are archaic spelling which were originally pronounced differently such as Knight and Knife where the K wasn't originally silent.