What's Boiling Your Pi$$ Today?

MartytheMartian

Legendary Knight
Afraid I am not so charitable myself @Scrappy and I think there are a lot of staff on the frontline who are feckin' useless too. Christ we had a Psychiatrist here about ten years ago, Saffron her name was which tells you everything about her, who the wife tried to get to see and so went on the waiting list - Saffron goes off on maternity leave and isn't replaced, we find out that she is back from maternity leave and wait for an appointment, none forthcoming so we follow it up "Oh Saffron's waiting list was 'cleared' while she was off on Maternity so you should have gone on the new list when she returned'. Well not being clairvoyant we didn't know that. "OK can we go back on the waiting list?" Certainly but Saffron is pregnant again and will be going off on maternity leave in two months time and you won't get to see her before then. Jesus wept! She came back again and then disappeared to have a third child before the NHS finally terminated her contract. They had paid her full pay for years when she literally worked a handful of months. We have a 'Crisis team' who don't answer their phones, get back to you after a couple of days and, when they do ask "what is it you think we can do for you?"

Folks get shirty when you criricise the 'angels' of the 'frontline' in the NHS but I think there are just as many shirkers, dodgers and far too comfortable in their 'job for life' nurses and doctors as you would find in any other government run organisation.
 

Sarky B’stard

Legendary Knight
I think its just politics that need to be removed from it, both internally (common purpose etc) and Westminster, too many decisions get make for political purposes rather than the good of the organisation and the patients 🤔
The system is fundamentally flawed. There are infinite medical wants but finite resources be they time, money, facilities, clinicians.

The NHS is managed like a Soviet command economy. It is completely unresponsive to patient needs. It works to targets mostly set by non clinicians to fulfil political objectives (We cut cancer waiting times but unfortunately the patient died of heart disease 🙄). There is no restriction on GP botherers and the worried well. If it was the vet you would think twice because it would cost you or your insurer. That is entirely sensible. It's plain daft to waste resources (especially GP time) on many people with minor ailments at the expense of the genuinely ill who aren't so pushy. The entire bureaucracy is averse to innovation. Worse, we still centrally plan Dr and nurse training in a way unrelated to hospital or high street needs. Who says generalised GPs are even the best way to deliver primary care? The Continental systems have ENT or skin specialists at Primary level so you don't need referring to the specialist - you go direct yourself.

It worked well enough in 1952 but for 2022 it's a total dinosaur and too readily manipulated by pharmaceutical and medical suppliers for their benefit and not the patients'.
 

Sarky B’stard

Legendary Knight
Afraid I am not so charitable myself @Scrappy and I think there are a lot of staff on the frontline who are feckin' useless too. Christ we had a Psychiatrist here about ten years ago, Saffron her name was which tells you everything about her, who the wife tried to get to see and so went on the waiting list - Saffron goes off on maternity leave and isn't replaced, we find out that she is back from maternity leave and wait for an appointment, none forthcoming so we follow it up "Oh Saffron's waiting list was 'cleared' while she was off on Maternity so you should have gone on the new list when she returned'. Well not being clairvoyant we didn't know that. "OK can we go back on the waiting list?" Certainly but Saffron is pregnant again and will be going off on maternity leave in two months time and you won't get to see her before then. Jesus wept! She came back again and then disappeared to have a third child before the NHS finally terminated her contract. They had paid her full pay for years when she literally worked a handful of months. We have a 'Crisis team' who don't answer their phones, get back to you after a couple of days and, when they do ask "what is it you think we can do for you?"

Folks get shirty when you criricise the 'angels' of the 'frontline' in the NHS but I think there are just as many shirkers, dodgers and far too comfortable in their 'job for life' nurses and doctors as you would find in any other government run organisation.
Masses have been de-motivated by the system they work in.
 

chas

Legendary Knight
The system is fundamentally flawed. There are infinite medical wants but finite resources be they time, money, facilities, clinicians.

The NHS is managed like a Soviet command economy. It is completely unresponsive to patient needs. It works to targets mostly set by non clinicians to fulfil political objectives (We cut cancer waiting times but unfortunately the patient died of heart disease 🙄).
Agreed.
I recently had a call about an upcoming cardio appt. 8 weeks after being referred. They'd had a 'cancellation' so could fit me in. I was sorely tempted to ask as to whether 'cancellation' was an euphemism for 'some poor bastard died before getting his appt'.

But then I don't want to be the poor bastard that dies waiting for his appt ;)
 

Scrappy

Legendary Knight
Afraid I am not so charitable myself @Scrappy and I think there are a lot of staff on the frontline who are feckin' useless too. Christ we had a Psychiatrist here about ten years ago, Saffron her name was which tells you everything about her, who the wife tried to get to see and so went on the waiting list - Saffron goes off on maternity leave and isn't replaced, we find out that she is back from maternity leave and wait for an appointment, none forthcoming so we follow it up "Oh Saffron's waiting list was 'cleared' while she was off on Maternity so you should have gone on the new list when she returned'. Well not being clairvoyant we didn't know that. "OK can we go back on the waiting list?" Certainly but Saffron is pregnant again and will be going off on maternity leave in two months time and you won't get to see her before then. Jesus wept! She came back again and then disappeared to have a third child before the NHS finally terminated her contract. They had paid her full pay for years when she literally worked a handful of months. We have a 'Crisis team' who don't answer their phones, get back to you after a couple of days and, when they do ask "what is it you think we can do for you?"

Folks get shirty when you criricise the 'angels' of the 'frontline' in the NHS but I think there are just as many shirkers, dodgers and far too comfortable in their 'job for life' nurses and doctors as you would find in any other government run organisation.

I agree with you regarding the poor quality of some of the staff, my point is that this is due to politics being played within the NHS at all levels and throughout. We have a massive problem with political activists infiltrating and infesting most of our public bodies, charities, and many private companies also. So IMO simply creating another organisation for health instead of the NHS would fall foul to the same problems in time, if the politics and political activists are not rooted out. A good start would be to ban common purpose and similar so called charities that brainwash and indoctrinate the employees. It needs to happen not only in the NHS, but the civil service, police, courts, etc.
 

Scrappy

Legendary Knight
The system is fundamentally flawed. There are infinite medical wants but finite resources be they time, money, facilities, clinicians.

The NHS is managed like a Soviet command economy. It is completely unresponsive to patient needs. It works to targets mostly set by non clinicians to fulfil political objectives (We cut cancer waiting times but unfortunately the patient died of heart disease 🙄). There is no restriction on GP botherers and the worried well. If it was the vet you would think twice because it would cost you or your insurer. That is entirely sensible. It's plain daft to waste resources (especially GP time) on many people with minor ailments at the expense of the genuinely ill who aren't so pushy. The entire bureaucracy is averse to innovation. Worse, we still centrally plan Dr and nurse training in a way unrelated to hospital or high street needs. Who says generalised GPs are even the best way to deliver primary care? The Continental systems have ENT or skin specialists at Primary level so you don't need referring to the specialist - you go direct yourself.

It worked well enough in 1952 but for 2022 it's a total dinosaur and too readily manipulated by pharmaceutical and medical suppliers for their benefit and not the patients'.

Show me any public body that is working well :rolleyes: - IMO it's a symptom of the politicised and woke PC climate we are living in. You have to tick boxes rather than employ the best candidates, you can't tell someone they are crap at their job because its bullying, often its difficult to sack someone based on the quality of their work, but easy if they have the wrong political opinion or say the wrong thing. Because of this these organisations can't attract quality talented staff, anyone who is any good can make more money and have better working conditions and environment in employment elsewhere.

I agree the health service should be redesigned, but for a redesigned service to work the fundamental issues that are destroying most public bodies need to be addressed i.e. get rid of anyone with an agenda or who's politics affect their work.
 

Don the Don

Legendary Knight
"Well" not what you would call a massive turn out, "quote" "They don't know if they are there already or not" "unquote" Mmmmm:unsure:
and the statement about having to deal with Russia with diplomacy instead of having nuke weapons, "carry on" Putin will just wipe his arse on any note you send.

Peace the old fashioned way

 
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MartytheMartian

Legendary Knight
'No Nukes' and 'No NATO expansion' FFS I'd love to know how they think that will work! NATO is a protective Treaty organisation designed to tie everyone (and that would include Russia if they weren't such a bunch of fuckin' wankers) into a group where all promise to protect all others from attack by anyone including another NATO member not an army of the West designed to crush all others, unlike the Russian dicks. No-one is forced to join NATO and they Choose to in order to gain protection from agressive neighbours and hellbound wankers like those fuckin' aforementioned Russians.

Quite frankly I think we should round up all those in favour of Nuclear Disarmament and Stopping 'NATO expansion' and take them to Ukraine's front lines where they can see how Russia's filthy fucking scum treat those who try to get on peacefully with their lives and don't have a protective treaty. Thank God the Ukrainian people have the kind of balls our liberal wankstain cretin's lack.
 

BAD LUCK DUCK

Forum Duck
Work as just done a big rota change with changes in duties start times and the routes they include...
I'm not supposed to do certain routes due to personality quirks shall we say...
They've totally bolloxed it and pissing everyone off..
It changes again in a couple of weeks..
Anyway I think I'm gonna be poorly as I ain't putting myself in a stressful situation which will result in me flying off the handle and everyone acting shocked at my response..
I got told this morning unless your contract states otherwise your doing it..
Then they wonder why they are short 18 driver's having to cancel services and I won't be in tomorrow 🦆
 

BAD LUCK DUCK

Forum Duck
I got a RAC newsletter saying government to ban loud exhausts and revving...
Apparently they are going to fit noise cameras and dish out fines...
Well the next time I get hit or pulled out on by a vehicle that wasn't aware of my presence cos I got a pussy quiet exhaust I shall just kill everyone in the vehicle then that was responsible for knocking me off my bike...
FUCK EM ALL 🦆
 

DD67

The Peace Keeper
Staff member
Well my gaffer waited to have a chat with me after work...Mmmmmm...let's just say all seems to have been resolved 🦆
I know that it'll go against the grain for you Duck.
But play the system mate. We may well despise the current woke ways. But you could use that bullshit to your advantage. In the world of "woke" your PTSD makes you "disabled".
Just like my hearing loss makes me.

I don't use my "disability" unnecessarily. But in situations where I can't hear such as banks etc with staff wearing masks & being behind screens. Therefore I can't hear them or lip read. I mention why I'm struggling & they fall over themselves to help.

Years ago I'd apologise as being the person with the problem. Nowadays I use their ridiculous level of "woke" to make life easier mate.
 

smib

Legendary Knight
I know that it'll go against the grain for you Duck.
But play the system mate.
Reminds of when I used to work for a large kwango company back in the late 80s. Our manager (they used to be called level ones?) made a speech, and told us all to go with the flow. When one of the techs put his hand up and said. "the only thing that goes with the flow is... Dead fish".... Classic
 
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