What's Boiling Your Pi$$ Today?

[Sarky B’stard]

Sadly the pattern we are seeing now is exactly the same pattern that the Roman ingress into Britain, the Angles and Saxons, Danes and Normans all followed. Historically the British people have only woken up to the dangers of people coming into the land from outside when it's too late to do anything about it. The early ones are welcomed or at the very least adopted by one tribe of Britons in order to gain the upper hand against another tribe of Briton's and those incomers send word home for their pals and they come in in larger and larger numbers until, finally, those who welcomed them realise that they are now under the rule of those they allied themselves with and join those who opposed the incomers all along but by then it's too late and the 'regime' has changed.

I beg to differ somewhat. Historically we fought invaders the moment they arrived but before modern unitary states it often fell to the local warlord to organise the 'reception party'. Once those new arrivals gained a foothold then they became useful allies against an oppressive overlord. And then we intermarried.....

The DNA record puts the lie to the idea we're even Anglo Saxons when we're 65-70% the original Beaker People who followed the retreating ice sheets. Just like Bosnian Moslems we adopted the language and customs of the ruling class.

The modern post WWII problem is the unique scale and speed of immigration from beyond our own Continent. Combined with bending over backwards to being accommodating we actually encourage immigrants NOT to integrate. There are stark differences between Hindus keeping their religion but being more British than the British and the self directed apartheid of many Moslem communities. The net result is a massive dilution of what it even means to be British.....and that's before you get to Nationalist politics and fictionalised versions of our own history which isn't even very well taught or understood. And then there's the ethnically based criminal underclasses ..... It doesn't make for a homogenous population at ease with itself and its neighbours.

 

[MartytheMartian]

I don't think we are too far apart in our take on things @Sarky B’stard although I have read in the past that some tribes welcomed the Romans with open arms and saw them as additional troops to defeat the folks they didn't like next door. I would argue that the modern equivalent is the Labour party encouraging immigration in the belief that the immigrants will be on their side and aid them against their Conservative enemies and the Marxist mob believe they will aid them against the ruling classes. I am sure that when Angles and Jutes started arriving some welcomed them as they saw them as a boost to their community but soon found themselves having to learn to be part of the Angle or Jute community as all their British mates had fled to other areas to get away from the incomers. Many who claim themselves to be Welsh or Scots are actually of ancient Southern English stock and their ancestors retreated from their native areas to the strongholds of the natives. The original 'White flight'. The term 'Welsh' originates in Anglo-Saxon 'Waelhas' and means foreigner. When the Angles, Saxons and Jutes gained the upper hand they then labelled the indigenous British 'foreigners' even though it had been their own land. I get the feeling that a lot of us here and now feel that we are 'foreigners in our own lands'. On the genetics front my own DNA, according to the experts in such things, is 98% that of the original inhabitants of this land with a little Scandinavian, German, Catalan and Mongol thrown in. The wife who is of Irish and Scottish descent is 97% indigenous Scots/Irish according to her DNA with some Norse, French and German thrown in which chimes with your take on the actual DNA of the majority of Britain who aren't in the category of recent imports. Over the years certain people in Academia and Sociological circles have worked hard to depict us as a mongrel race in the UK but the reality is that, except for those of less than a few generations in these lands, the majority of us can trace the majority of our lineage back to the post ice age people of Britain. A large chunk of my DNA apparently matches with bones of people who lived around the chalk lands of the far south of Britain about twenty thousand years ago if I recall correctly so, although my ancestry is Scottish for the last four hundred years at least that I have traced it back to, at some point my ancestors were from the South of England which is why I consider myself British rather than Scottish. Of course the Celtic/Gaelic word 'Alba' that the SNP etc. are so fond of using for Scotland is actually the ancient Celtic word for the 'white' lands - The chalk lands of Southern England and is from the same origin as 'Albion' which used to be used sometimes for England.

 

[DD67]

I don't think we are too far apart in our take on things @Sarky B’stard although I have read in the past that some tribes welcomed the Romans with open arms and saw them as additional troops to defeat the folks they didn't like next door. I would argue that the modern equivalent is the Labour party encouraging immigration in the belief that the immigrants will be on their side and aid them against their Conservative enemies and the Marxist mob believe they will aid them against the ruling classes. I am sure that when Angles and Jutes started arriving some welcomed them as they saw them as a boost to their community but soon found themselves having to learn to be part of the Angle or Jute community as all their British mates had fled to other areas to get away from the incomers. Many who claim themselves to be Welsh or Scots are actually of ancient Southern English stock and their ancestors retreated from their native areas to the strongholds of the natives. The original 'White flight'. The term 'Welsh' originates in Anglo-Saxon 'Waelhas' and means foreigner. When the Angles, Saxons and Jutes gained the upper hand they then labelled the indigenous British 'foreigners' even though it had been their own land. I get the feeling that a lot of us here and now feel that we are 'foreigners in our own lands'. On the genetics front my own DNA, according to the experts in such things, is 98% that of the original inhabitants of this land with a little Scandinavian, German, Catalan and Mongol thrown in. The wife who is of Irish and Scottish descent is 97% indigenous Scots/Irish according to her DNA with some Norse, French and German thrown in which chimes with your take on the actual DNA of the majority of Britain who aren't in the category of recent imports. Over the years certain people in Academia and Sociological circles have worked hard to depict us as a mongrel race in the UK but the reality is that, except for those of less than a few generations in these lands, the majority of us can trace the majority of our lineage back to the post ice age people of Britain. A large chunk of my DNA apparently matches with bones of people who lived around the chalk lands of the far south of Britain about twenty thousand years ago if I recall correctly so, although my ancestry is Scottish for the last four hundred years at least that I have traced it back to, at some point my ancestors were from the South of England which is why I consider myself British rather than Scottish. Of course the Celtic/Gaelic word 'Alba' that the SNP etc. are so fond of using for Scotland is actually the ancient Celtic word for the 'white' lands - The chalk lands of Southern England and is from the same origin as 'Albion' which used to be used sometimes for England.

Very interesting Marty

I'll have to get one of those DNA kits. My wee Scottish psychopath mate. Reckons I can't possibly be a proper Englishman cos I'm too tall. He likes to recount an (imaginary) tale of one of my female ancestors being raped by a viking.

I accept that is a possibility. But I also remind him that Hobbits aren't real. So how does he explain his existence?

My best guess is that on a dark & stormy night in Glasgow a thousand years ago. A drunk & mentally disturbed rabid dog had intercourse with a heroine addicted hooker.
And the dog needed to be placed on a bar stool. On account of it being a miniature poodle & the hooker weighing 30st

Maybe I should strike a deal for a DNA testing kit for he & I? Will they test his DNA for traces of animal seamen?

 

[Sarky B’stard]

Very interesting Marty

I'll have to get one of those DNA kits. My wee Scottish psychopath mate. Reckons I can't possibly be a proper Englishman cos I'm too tall. He likes to recount an (imaginary) tale of one of my female ancestors being raped by a viking.

I accept that is a possibility. But I also remind him that Hobbits aren't real. So how does he explain his existence?

My best guess is that on a dark & stormy night in Glasgow a thousand years ago. A drunk & mentally disturbed rabid dog had intercourse with a heroine addicted hooker.
And the dog needed to be placed on a bar stool. On account of it being a miniature poodle & the hooker weighing 30st

Maybe I should strike a deal for a DNA testing kit for he & I? Will they test his DNA for traces of animal seamen?

Probably the most plausible explanation I have yet heard for your multiple deformities both mental and physical. But it's hellish confusing when Welsh are foreign but we're British i.e. Welsh just like Breton French

 

[Tallpaul]

You feckers crack me up!!!!

 

[Don the Don]

My piss boilith over, I saw this on a mil site as well, I wont comment on the reaction

MSN

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[Steve 998cc]

My piss boilith over, I saw this on a mil site as well, I wont comment on the reaction

MSN

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Whats it feel ilke to be a second class citizen in your own country shite like a kick in the b**l**ks

 

[MartytheMartian]

I personally think that 'Bretton' (apprently the oldest name assigned to the island in writing is Britannia) is probably the best bet for the original name of the main island of the British Isles and. in the early post Ice Age days a tribe from the white lands of what is now Southern England moved north and settled in the lands now called Scotland and hence the name Alba is taken from the Gaelic word Albannach which means the people of the white lands. On the mountain behind my house there is a large rock whose name in Gaelic, Clach a Bhrettunnach (stone of the Britons) and that name, I believe is because it marked a boundary between the lands still held by the Britons where everything to the West was then in the hands of Scots settlers coming into Argyll from Ireland.

The Welsh don't call themselves Welsh in their Celtic language. They call their land Cumrigh (pronounced Coomree) and there is a place in Scotland called Comrie and that place is in the heart of what we call the Pictish area of Scotland and is surrounded by place names from the Britonnic celtic language rather than the Scotto Celtic language of Ireland. I reckon that indicates that English, Welsh and Scots are largely the one people despite claims that we are all different. We are tribes of the one blood with a smattering of other influences.

 

[Sarky B’stard]

The linguistic links are everywhere. The Celtic arfon/Avon/abhainn (bh sounds as a 'v') whether Welsh or Gaelic means river ...... see how many river rivers we have?! Briton/Britain is the same as Brython - the Ancient Britons who predated later arrivals. The word itself may be an imported corruption of the Greek pretani meaning painted ones ...... exactly as Picti was Roman for the same thing.

Tats ain't new boys! Fed up of going round in circles yet?! The trouble is that we only started writing stuff with the arrival of Christianity and monks and whatever the Romans thought noteworthy.

Blame some of the academics for inventing words to apply to groups they identified 2,000 yrs later.

Brittonic languages - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[MartytheMartian]

Of course the name Pretani or even Britani could have been the name by which the people called themselves. There is often an assumption that every word that sounds like Latin or Greek is actually Latin or Greek but a lot of Brythonic words are remarkably similar to Greek and Latin words. This is hardly surprising given that chances are almost all of the languages of Europe are descended from an original Indo-European language that spread and mutated as the tribes moved across Europe. The root of the word I have used a number of times 'Alba' is the same as in the name Albania or the word for white in Latin. Is it racist to say that Britain was once truly the land of the White people? It is, after all, historically accurate as a statement. I wonder when we will need to change the name to Brown land or Black land.

 

[Scrappy]

The scam that is Black Friday and Cyber Monday sales . I don't think I've seen any genuine bargains, but I have seen loads of examples of rip offs.

Some examples:

• A few weeks ago I purchased a guitar for about £350, that same guitar is now supposed to be on sale at £350
• Amazon have been selling certain brands of whiskey at decent prices for some time, but about 2 weeks ago all the discounts finished, then comes Black Friday sales and the prices go back to the same they were a couple of weeks ago e.g. Tullamore Due was about £16 then went up to about £22, now "on sale" for £17
• I brought a guitar effects pedal exactly 2 weeks ago for £19.60, now its in the Black Friday sales for £51.16 with 25% off making it £38.37 nearly twice what I paid 14 days ago!

Its disgusting, but I guess there are some very stupid people that fall for these obvious scams

 

[Don the Don]

The scam that is Black Friday and Cyber Monday sales . I don't think I've seen any genuine bargains, but I have seen loads of examples of rip offs.

Some examples:

• A few weeks ago I purchased a guitar for about £350, that same guitar is now supposed to be on sale at £350
• Amazon have been selling certain brands of whiskey at decent prices for some time, but about 2 weeks ago all the discounts finished, then comes Black Friday sales and the prices go back to the same they were a couple of weeks ago e.g. Tullamore Due was about £16 then went up to about £22, now "on sale" for £17
• I brought a guitar effects pedal exactly 2 weeks ago for £19.60, now its in the Black Friday sales for £51.16 with 25% off making it £38.37 nearly twice what I paid 14 days ago!

Its disgusting, but I guess there are some very stupid people that fall for these obvious scams

Fools and their money, I only buy stuff as and when I need it and then do my homework, as for all this Black friday stuff it goes on for weeks and you are right it's a rip off like all the other things including christmas, bah humbug.

 

[MartytheMartian]

There is never anything I want amongst the Black Friday 'deals' and I kind of rail against participating in an American consumer fleecing scheme that goes alongside the, not that old, tradition of Americans celebrating the survival of their ancestors in their new land. On the other hand I just splashed a not insignificant amount of cash on a full set of Signwriting enamels from another supplier to broaden my range of available colours and bought two tins of Coach enamel as well for painting my Enfield Bullet - BMC Kingfisher Blue and British Standard colour Deep Purple. As a 'bundle' I saved just shy of a hundred quid on the total individual tin price of the Sign enamels.

 

[Don the Don]

That turd Khan is at it again, time for a replacement for London, too high a black vote though
[Taken from sump mag]





ULEZ anticipates further expansion



Story snapshot:

23rd August 2023 is the date to watch
All of Greater London is now targeted


The plot thickens. Sadiq Khan, the current mayor of London—whose personal agenda includes murdering the internal combustion engine, which has served us so well for so long—has just published details of his latest asthmatic wheeze.

We're referring to the proposed expansion of the London ULEZ (Ultra Low Emissions Zone) which will balloon on 23rd August 2023. Take a peek at the map immediately above. The red area represents the London Congestion Zone which was established in February 2003. The ULEZ was established in April 2019 and "sits" directly over that zone.

In October 2021, the ULEZ was expanded to cover an area generally encompassed by the North Circular and South Circular Road; in other words, the blue area on the map. And now, come August 2023, we learn that the ULEZ will encompass all London and Greater London boroughs.

If you're riding a motorcycle or driving a car (petrol or diesel) that's non-compliant with the relevant Euro emissions regulations, you'll have to pay a daily charge of £12.50 per day. But if you live in the zone and don't fire your motor on any given day, you pay nothing. It's a tax against movement, not ownership. And note that if you plan to drive through the ULEZ and into the London Congestion Zone, you'll have to pay an extra £15 per day—and if that ain't essentially a tax against the poor, we don't know what is.

Additionally, if you motor around the periphery of Greater London on the M25 and plan to cross the Queen Elizabeth bridge over the Thames, you pay nowt if you ride a motorcycle, but will face a Dart Charge of £2.50 each way (but no charge between 10pm and 6am). But the M25 itself, even when it encroaches on Greater London is (currently) ULEZ charge free.

So which vehicles are compliant/non-compliant with the ULEZ? Well, there are all kinds of rules and exemptions and caveats and standards that serve only to confuse, including exemptions for historic vehicles. So we think it's best to hit this link which will check your registration number and see where you fit in. But if you think you're getting a raw deal, contact Transport for London (TfL) and have a whinge.

What with the advent of high-tech electric vehicles, this latest ULEZ expansion compounds the notion that petrol engines are on the wrong side of history. The noxious gases produced are a serious menace, etc. We know that. But still, it sometimes feel that the steamroller of the future is coming on a little too fast.

Meanwhile, The Khan is doing all he can to persuade us to ride the buses and tube trains where we can get a heavy dose of Covid-19 instead (along with whatever other nasty diseases are in circulation at any given time).

 

[Tallpaul]

What is that wank stain still doing as mayor? He dodged an election because of lockdown, but that was finished over a year ago.

 

[Sarky B’stard]

Of course the name Pretani or even Britani could have been the name by which the people called themselves. There is often an assumption that every word that sounds like Latin or Greek is actually Latin or Greek but a lot of Brythonic words are remarkably similar to Greek and Latin words. This is hardly surprising given that chances are almost all of the languages of Europe are descended from an original Indo-European language that spread and mutated as the tribes moved across Europe. The root of the word I have used a number of times 'Alba' is the same as in the name Albania or the word for white in Latin. Is it racist to say that Britain was once truly the land of the White people? It is, after all, historically accurate as a statement. I wonder when we will need to change the name to Brown land or Black land.

Cheddar Gorge man wasn't just brown bread but seriously brown!

Cheddar Man: Mesolithic Britain's blue-eyed boy

What did humans in Britain look like 10,000 years ago? Find out how scientists uncovered the appearance of one of the oldest modern humans unearthed in Britain and explore his story.

www.nhm.ac.uk

Fair skin appears to be a genetic mutation driven by Northern latitudes and the need to synthesise Vitamin D through your skin. Vitamin D deficiency is well recognised in the Glasgow immigrant population from Southern climes. It also explains susceptibility to Covid...... not a problem in sunny, half naked Africa but liable to give you a problem in well wrapped Scunthorpe.

 

[MartytheMartian]

I must admit that I am sceptical of whether Cheddar man was genuinely a brown boy. It strikes me that, all of a sudden and around the time that the 'white bad, brown good' mantra started to gain in the mainstream they suddenly decided that ancient Europeans were painted black. All too convenient to fit the new narrative it seems to me. If pale skin was an adaptation for northern climes why are orientals, a lot of Indians. Native central and southern Americans and Middle Easterners fairly pale? One thing is striking to me genetically and that is that there is only one race in the world who are pure Homo-Sapiens who have no Neanderthal or Denisovan DNA whatsoever in their DNA and that is those of sub-Saharan Africa and they are the only truly 'black' people on the face of the Earth. It seems to me that there is something not quite right about the anthropological story of mankind.

 

[Sarky B’stard]

Well the dark brown faced Inuit in the far North enjoy heaps of reflected light from snow. However, check your globe . We are half way up Hudson's Bay with serious cloud cover.

The great irony in all of this is fashion. Think of the portraits of Elizabeth 1 or European monarchs of the similar and later periods. They weren't notably addicted to soap but used make up to enhance whiteness. Why? Because it distinguished them and their wealth and status from the brown povs working the fields, We now lay a fortune to get browned off because office windows refract light.

(As an aside there is mounting evidence that skin cancer numbers are't exploding as alleged to shift suntan cream etc., but because of massive over diagnosis of benign lesions..... )

From W Europe to the Slavs right through to Mongolia and beyond we basically colour up as necessary and black races aren't a uniform colour depending on lifestyle and location..... before you get to slave owning practices in the Old South. Spaniards aren't born as lily white (or blue) as Scots.

 

[MartytheMartian]

What I was saying was not that we ain't and never have been brown but that light(er) skin seems, according to an anthropologist fellow I know, to have been a trait of the Neanderthal and Denisovan varieties of human and that there is a distinct colouration difference between all those who have some degree of Neanderthal or Denisovan genes, basically everyone who is not of purely sub-Saharan African origin and those of Sub-Saharan African origin. The question is - Will Sub-Saharan Africans living in Europe and North America eventually become indistinguishable from those who have lived in these lands for generations? Is it only an environmental adaptation? I am not intertested in it from the point of view of being a rabid racist trying to prove some superiority but simply because I'd like answers to what caused the Neanderthal and Denisovan branches of the human family tree to change so much. Did early Britons resemble Sub-Saharan Africans or did they look like dark skinned Europeans? Were they really dark skinned at all or is that just to be politically correct? The previously mentioned anthropologist fellow is generally very tight lipped about his profession as he is of the opinion that discussing such a topic as the origins and varieties of mankind is somewhat dangerous these days.

 

[Don the Don]