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BAD LUCK DUCK

Forum Duck
During World War 2 about 1% of the UK population died, and the people were told to "Keep Calm and Carry On" and they did, people still went to work, children still went to school, life expectancy of a Spitfire pilot during the Battle of Britain was apparently 4 weeks but they still fought, men exited off landing craft into a storm of bullets and death but they still ran forwards. And people endured 5 years of war to protect their freedoms.

2020/21 covid is supposed to be responsible for the deaths of 0.16% of the population (death with 28 days of positive test), and we are told to "Stay At Home, Saves Lives", people are under house arrest, children can't go to school, because of a disease which has only affected about 5.8% of the population and with a 99% survival rate. And people capitulate, and seemingly surrender their freedom.

What a load of pussies we have become...
Its all part of the bigger plan....
Segregation of people...If children don't go to school they can't form friendships and bond with others...Sitting in front of a screen being indoctrinated they don't learn how to socialise with their peers and don't form emotional attachments....
Makes it easier to turn in your fellow man or woman, imprison or even kill them when ordered to later on in life....

Dont think it can happen...Check out the new security services bill they have been trying to push through parliament to employ children to spy on family and friends and turn them in..Everyone from security services to your local councils would be able to use what is being called child spies....Its appalling and a sure sign with everything else that is going on of the direction this country is currently heading...

It needs to be stopped now...
 

Scrappy

Legendary Knight
The press and a long period without a major war or regular serious and visible disease has made the global population over sensitive to death. Death early and at short notice has become such a rare occurence that the press have turned each single death from a personal tragedy into a national catastrophe, although they play down those that don't suit their agenda and you don't here a great hue and cry over the black on black gang murders that are regularly happening around Britain. Where a report of thousands dead on a battlefield would have barely caused a twitch of an eyebrow in the past now people are horrified if two people die in a car crash at the other end of the country.

That is all true, however the Covid response is still I believe massively out of proportion.

For example 350 people under the age of 60 have died from Covid who did not have existing comorbidities. There were 285 killings by a knife or sharp instrument in the 12 months ending March 2018
 

MartytheMartian

Legendary Knight
Thing is though @Scrappy if the government had just stood back and said "it's not that bad, everyone just carry on" the families of those relatively small numbers who have died would be filling the BBC news, newspapers and internet with condemnation of them for not treating it seriously enough so they make the effort to 'take it seriously' (remember all the wailing and gnashing of teeth at the start when the government promoted 'herd immunity'?). Once they demonstrate that they are 'taking it seriously' they then get hosts of people saying that it's all a hoax and the death toll isn't bad at all and so, I guess, they are tempted to 'beef up' the figures by adding in deaths of people where Covid might or might not have been a contributing factor. Of course all these things add up to fuelling suspicion that it's all a con and there is an ulterior motive.

Personally I think that:

1. Covid19 is real and, while generally a mild illness, can affect some very badly, especially the elderly and those with respiratory and heart problems and those who suffer a serious allergic reaction to it.

2. No governments have any real experience of dealing with a serious epidemc/pandemic and are having to make it up as they go along.

3. Government is actually too sensitive to public and press opinion and is allowing it to influence their decisions for fear that they will be crucified if they get it wrong.

4. There is no conspiracy behind it, we are simply in a mess where the press, courts and public opinion have too much influence on governmental policy.

5. People like Bill Gates (who has the developmental disorder, Asperger's) think they know what is right with the unshakeable certainty of a child (that's typical of Asperger's people) and they do seem to be gaining control over things and that is more worrying to me than anything else. Asperger's/Autism is a condition which leaves it's sufferers in a 'stunted' condition where they see everything in that very black and white view of a child where it's all either good or bad and there is no in-between, they are inflexible and cannot tolerate the grey areas where humour, compassion, love, imagination and more all dwell. I am willing to bet that Jo Swinson and a lot of other 'Liberals' are on the Aspergers/autism spectrum.
 
T

The Departed

Guest
I think we all know who the majority of perpetrators are, but we ain't allowed to say it. The figures used to be easily available for age, sex, ethnicity of these criminals, but it's not so easy to find nowadays for some reason.

I always say bollocks to it, let them kill each other, live by the sword (or machete) die by the sword (or machete). You made that choice, not the council, the Govt, the police, you did, end of.
 

Scrappy

Legendary Knight
Thing is though @Scrappy if the government had just stood back and said "it's not that bad, everyone just carry on" the families of those relatively small numbers who have died would be filling the BBC news, newspapers and internet with condemnation of them for not treating it seriously enough so they make the effort to 'take it seriously' (remember all the wailing and gnashing of teeth at the start when the government promoted 'herd immunity'?). Once they demonstrate that they are 'taking it seriously' they then get hosts of people saying that it's all a hoax and the death toll isn't bad at all and so, I guess, they are tempted to 'beef up' the figures by adding in deaths of people where Covid might or might not have been a contributing factor. Of course all these things add up to fuelling suspicion that it's all a con and there is an ulterior motive.

Personally I think that:

1. Covid19 is real and, while generally a mild illness, can affect some very badly, especially the elderly and those with respiratory and heart problems and those who suffer a serious allergic reaction to it.

2. No governments have any real experience of dealing with a serious epidemc/pandemic and are having to make it up as they go along.

3. Government is actually too sensitive to public and press opinion and is allowing it to influence their decisions for fear that they will be crucified if they get it wrong.

4. There is no conspiracy behind it, we are simply in a mess where the press, courts and public opinion have too much influence on governmental policy.

5. People like Bill Gates (who has the developmental disorder, Asperger's) think they know what is right with the unshakeable certainty of a child (that's typical of Asperger's people) and they do seem to be gaining control over things and that is more worrying to me than anything else. Asperger's/Autism is a condition which leaves it's sufferers in a 'stunted' condition where they see everything in that very black and white view of a child where it's all either good or bad and there is no in-between, they are inflexible and cannot tolerate the grey areas where humour, compassion, love, imagination and more all dwell. I am willing to bet that Jo Swinson and a lot of other 'Liberals' are on the Aspergers/autism spectrum.

I largely agree with what you have said Marty, however if you remember at the beginning of the outbreak we were told:
  • For the majority catching the virus that it would not be life threatening, the symptoms to be like that of a bad cold or flu.
  • It could be serious for the elderly or anyone with an existing illness (comorbidity) i.e. the vulnerable.
  • Protecting the vulnerable whilst achieving herd immunity was the best course of action, and that was going to be the government strategy.
  • Face masks were not effective in preventing infection and in fact could do more damage than good (also stated by the WHO).
  • Lockdown would only be for 3 weeks to "smooth the curve" and protect the NHS.
So they did know what to expect, and they had a very good idea of the correct strategy to take, but as you said they seemed to have panicked, at the wild scaremongering that took place in the press/media.

I personally believe that instead of saving lives, the government response has possibly cost more lives. That may have been due to ineptitude, fear of the media, or possibly due to influence of big pharma, and maybe a degree of all three. Even the WHO now state that lockdown is not the correct strategy.

The government has also further damaged their credibility by the reliance on the PCR tests, which are proven to be wildly inaccurate providing the inflated "cases" numbers, the false registering of deaths as Covid related, the forced use of masks, the outragious heavy handed policing of restrictions, and the incredible hypocrisy and double standards exhibited by politicians, TV presenters, the rich/powerful, etc.

I believe there is an element of conspiracy behind it, because that is in fact not being hidden, the World Economic Forum are openly stating that they want to use (or take advantage of) Covid to implement their "Great Reset" with their "Build Back Better" mantra. There is even an attempt to link Covid to climate change, where it is being stated that the increased greening that has occured in China has provided an environment for bats to thrive :rolleyes: - I'm not saying that Covid itself is a conspiracy, but the prolonged restrictions and the out of proportion fear mongering, may well be driven by and being used for another agenda.

What I am really frustrated by is; the governments inability to protect the vulnerable, the lack of perspective being demonstrated by most people, and the general populations acceptance of the excessive restrictions being forced upon them.
 

Sarky B’stard

Legendary Knight
I agree. I think the opportunists saw the wobble and pounced. The Swedes held their nerve. Johnson is no leader. He wants adulation not responsibility and is horribly compromised in his not very private life. His lengthy meetings with the likes of Murdoch and Rebecca Brooks tell their own story about what a straw in the wind he is. Can you imagine what they have on him?
 

Flynnt20

Legendary Knight
I've lived in this house for 14 years. Not once in 14 years have I felt the need to put up blinds for privacy during the daytime.

We got new neighbours last October. I now have blinds at all the windows. If I go out on the front to do something I can feel next doors net curtains twitching.... Have even been told that 'they saw me doing....' The kitchen has even got vertical blinds on it now. Stood in there and there's bozo stood in his garden staring in. This guy is a townie through and through. Hasn't got a fucking clue about anything other than what he's seen on faecesbook and youchoob.

Sharpening things as I speak. I like my own space, and I respect others privacy. I expect others to respect mine. If not.....there will probably be blood and pain, and possibly plastic in his future.
Next time he is in the garden stand as close to the fence as you can with your mobile phone by your ear and speak slowly saying " Now listen to me because i will not repeat myself , i have had your money , i have cleaned the blood up and they will never find the body because they have never found the others , if you fuckin phone me again you will be buried with them " i guarantee you he will run away every time he sees you
 

Sarky B’stard

Legendary Knight
Next time he is in the garden stand as close to the fence as you can with your mobile phone by your ear and speak slowly saying " Now listen to me because i will not repeat myself , i have had your money , i have cleaned the blood up and they will never find the body because they have never found the others , if you fuckin phone me again you will be buried with them " i guarantee you he will run away every time he sees you
Don’t forget to look up and smile at him as you pocket the phone 😎
 

DD67

The Peace Keeper
Staff member
Next time he is in the garden stand as close to the fence as you can with your mobile phone by your ear and speak slowly saying " Now listen to me because i will not repeat myself , i have had your money , i have cleaned the blood up and they will never find the body because they have never found the others , if you fuckin phone me again you will be buried with them " i guarantee you he will run away every time he sees you
Ya see @Big Sandy, patience is a virtue 🙂
All you needed to do was tell the story. Then sit back & wait for one of your friendly psychopaths to come up with a solution! 😳
And it wasn't Duck for a change 😎
 

BAD LUCK DUCK

Forum Duck
I largely agree with what you have said Marty, however if you remember at the beginning of the outbreak we were told:
  • For the majority catching the virus that it would not be life threatening, the symptoms to be like that of a bad cold or flu.
  • It could be serious for the elderly or anyone with an existing illness (comorbidity) i.e. the vulnerable.
  • Protecting the vulnerable whilst achieving herd immunity was the best course of action, and that was going to be the government strategy.
  • Face masks were not effective in preventing infection and in fact could do more damage than good (also stated by the WHO).
  • Lockdown would only be for 3 weeks to "smooth the curve" and protect the NHS.
So they did know what to expect, and they had a very good idea of the correct strategy to take, but as you said they seemed to have panicked, at the wild scaremongering that took place in the press/media.

I personally believe that instead of saving lives, the government response has possibly cost more lives. That may have been due to ineptitude, fear of the media, or possibly due to influence of big pharma, and maybe a degree of all three. Even the WHO now state that lockdown is not the correct strategy.

The government has also further damaged their credibility by the reliance on the PCR tests, which are proven to be wildly inaccurate providing the inflated "cases" numbers, the false registering of deaths as Covid related, the forced use of masks, the outragious heavy handed policing of restrictions, and the incredible hypocrisy and double standards exhibited by politicians, TV presenters, the rich/powerful, etc.

I believe there is an element of conspiracy behind it, because that is in fact not being hidden, the World Economic Forum are openly stating that they want to use (or take advantage of) Covid to implement their "Great Reset" with their "Build Back Better" mantra. There is even an attempt to link Covid to climate change, where it is being stated that the increased greening that has occured in China has provided an environment for bats to thrive :rolleyes: - I'm not saying that Covid itself is a conspiracy, but the prolonged restrictions and the out of proportion fear mongering, may well be driven by and being used for another agenda.

What I am really frustrated by is; the governments inability to protect the vulnerable, the lack of perspective being demonstrated by most people, and the general populations acceptance of the excessive restrictions being forced upon them.
Don't forget they are already going on about climate change lockdowns and the death toll for that is predicted to be several times worse than covid19...
 

Doc Strange

Legendary Knight
Thing is though @Scrappy if the government had just stood back and said "it's not that bad, everyone just carry on" the families of those relatively small numbers who have died would be filling the BBC news, newspapers and internet with condemnation of them for not treating it seriously enough so they make the effort to 'take it seriously' (remember all the wailing and gnashing of teeth at the start when the government promoted 'herd immunity'?). Once they demonstrate that they are 'taking it seriously' they then get hosts of people saying that it's all a hoax and the death toll isn't bad at all and so, I guess, they are tempted to 'beef up' the figures by adding in deaths of people where Covid might or might not have been a contributing factor. Of course all these things add up to fuelling suspicion that it's all a con and there is an ulterior motive.

Personally I think that:

1. Covid19 is real and, while generally a mild illness, can affect some very badly, especially the elderly and those with respiratory and heart problems and those who suffer a serious allergic reaction to it.

2. No governments have any real experience of dealing with a serious epidemc/pandemic and are having to make it up as they go along.

3. Government is actually too sensitive to public and press opinion and is allowing it to influence their decisions for fear that they will be crucified if they get it wrong.

4. There is no conspiracy behind it, we are simply in a mess where the press, courts and public opinion have too much influence on governmental policy.

5. People like Bill Gates (who has the developmental disorder, Asperger's) think they know what is right with the unshakeable certainty of a child (that's typical of Asperger's people) and they do seem to be gaining control over things and that is more worrying to me than anything else. Asperger's/Autism is a condition which leaves it's sufferers in a 'stunted' condition where they see everything in that very black and white view of a child where it's all either good or bad and there is no in-between, they are inflexible and cannot tolerate the grey areas where humour, compassion, love, imagination and more all dwell. I am willing to bet that Jo Swinson and a lot of other 'Liberals' are on the Aspergers/autism spectrum.
Agree with all of that bar the last paragraph.

The Aspergers' spectrum is more complex than that - not all of those with Aspergers have the certainty of thought you describe, and many without do.

But the key point that Govt is slagged off if they do and slagged off if they don't do something is key I reckon.

And the press are the main culprits in encouraging that I believe - a thoroughly dishonourable bunch imo.

DS

DS
 
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